camouflage passport legality

from main page. cam you use a nonbiometric pasport anymore if you look western? Extremely poor quality article, likely needs rewriting from the ground up to become wikified. It is that simple. As a dual citizen of both the US and France, I have two passports and two drivers licenses. I just happened to see this article while browsing, and felt compelled to write. My recent editor quotes the passages I wrote and attributes them to “passport distributors.” This is false. Eh? Any chance you could be more specific? They don’t pretend what they are selling is “real,” they describe exactly what their wares are: Bogus but real-looking and from a host of non-existent countries you can choose from. I can issue them. )” is particularly charming. It is a distinction that is predicated partly on intended use, partly on the nature of the documents themselves, and partly on origin. Therefore the “passport” is not properly a forgery of any real document, but an approximation of what a real document of the sort would look like, if, in fact, a real document of that sort existed, which they don’t. Give good old Wikipedia a great new look: Cover photo is available under {{::mainImage.info.license.name || 'Unknown'}} license. I’m not going to get bogged down in a what do I do for a living argument, but he's fighting a straw man here, not me. Using a camouflage passport in that way just screams “arrest me, please!, I love jail.” ... though a lot of the changes should stay and I agree that the legality issue could have been—and still needs to be, perhaps—rounded out better. This article is unencyclopedic in tone, does not cite any sources and contains weasel words. Criticality 04:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC). We get it; you don't like novelty passports. Camouflage passports are usually counterfeit document designed by the companies that sell them, to be carried by Americans (or other nationalities) that could be in danger in certain areas of the world simply because of their country of origin. The edit comment “(Don't let the scammers that sell these fakes write these articles. To claim that thousands of them sold each year are sold out of some terrorist security concerns is just ludacrous. See. Alas, however, Hong Kong is no longer British and now passports issued in the name of a “British Hong Kong” are patently bogus. on the last page where it is written "This Passport is Property of the Union of Soviet Socialist I would note that many are issued in the names of places that never existed or never issued passports. Obviously he was overtaken by the idea that I am a camouflage “passport distributor” and it really got his knickers in a bind. The country‘s national motto is E Mare, Libertas (From the Sea, Freedom), reflecting its enduring struggle for liberty through the years. The USSR does not exist and it does not issue passports. Camouflage passports are sold by blatantly commercial business outfits as a putative security tool. Camouflage passports for sale from PT Shamrock Ltd., 2001. Located in international waters, on the military fortress of Roughs Tower, Sealand is the smallest country in the world. BTW I can't find any reference to Soviet passports in the link you cited. That is why the terms exist: “Camouflage” denotes the intended use of the document as well as its design, viz., to have a passably realistic country name and appearance. Made for training and films only. Camouflage passports are sold in the name of “British Hong Kong.” E.g. It may be true of some “official circles,” but not all, as the rather detailed Isle of Man publication demonstrates. The passports continued to be accepted by … Following its Unilateral Declaration of Independence from Britain on 11 November 1965, Rhodesia's predominantly white minority government was unrecognised, causing the legality of its passports to become ambiguous.From 1968, United Nations Security Council Resolution 253 called on all UN member states to refuse entry to Rhodesian passport holders. Recently, passports issued by Unrecognized Countries are used as camouflage passport. As you suggest, UK issued British National overseas passports are, of course, REAL. It completely kills the whole point of this encyclopedia. You also say: “The catchall term of fantasy document is often used in official circles to describe all of the different types of these documents.” Which “official circles”? “Fantasy” denotes not only the fantastical nature of many of the issuing entities, but rather that the documents are consumed as novelties, often by people who only are feeding their imaginations. Isn't it strange to open an unknown country's passport and see no visa in it. --Bjd-- Something really needs to be done; this is the most bluntly point of view article I've ever read (and I've read lots of Serbia/Croatia articles). You say: “I don't agree that a camouflage or fantasy passport are different things.” That is an opinion that you are entitled to it. Any objection to my updating the article to reflect this? Faux Passports will have OPFOR “Fake” Logo for legality issues. There's more but I'm too tired to fight about this. I don’t know whether the Russian Federation marks up its newly issued passports with the name of the issuing county, I suspect they do. It may be sold with matching documents, such as an international driver's license, club membership card, insurance documents or similar supporting identity papers. Added a redirect from fantasy passport as no article exists there. If you enter a country holding that passport, your passport would surely be stamped. It is outright deceiving in implying that there's nothing illegal about them. {{::mainImage.info.license.name || 'Unknown'}}, {{current.info.license.usageTerms || current.info.license.name || current.info.license.detected || 'Unknown'}}, Uploaded by: {{current.info.uploadUser}} on {{current.info.uploadDate | date:'mediumDate'}}. As indicated, the “British Hong Kong” passports on the market are camouflage, since no one issues a “British Hong Kong” passport and “British Hong Kong.” What is your point in this edit? Republics" is stamped "This Passport is Property of the Russian Federation". Russian(and other former Soviet Nations) Passports issued on USSR Paper Stock have a stamp Issued by various groups supporting. Can you use a fantasy passport as a camouflage passport? A single “fantasy” issuer issues its own single type of passport and purports that the passport actually means something, be it membership, solidarity, citizenship, whatever. The Fake Passport is incredibly realistic.Great for film, training exercise, and re-enactments. 81.151.203.167 (talk) 09:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC), somthing abut biometric pasports ? I made the following changes: When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. --Spartaz 16:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC). In any case the issue date of the passport comes well after the entity ceased to exist as an issuing entity. A camouflage passport is a document, designed to look like a real passport, issued in the name of a non-existent country or entity. Another point to mention - the majority of these fake passports are used for fraud, that's a fact. They do not come out and say “buy our fake passports, the mean nothing, but you might be able to fool terrorist with them.” Their product is quite different. It may be sold with matching documents, such as an international driver's license, club membership card, insurance documents or similar supporting identity papers. They are just slightly different sides of the same coin and there is no justification for two articles saying the same thing. Would you like to suggest this photo as the cover photo for this article? A camouflage passport is a document, designed to look like a real passport, issued in the name of a non-existent country or entity. Again, the USSR does not exist and it cannot issue passports. I don't agree that a camouflage or fantasy passport are different things. You bet. Fantasy passports are the opposite. They are used exactly for the very purpose that the author is trivializing as a marginal occurrence, and that is misrepresentation for financial gain. The original article drew the common, rational distinction between the two. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. British Hebrides (islands off the west coast of Scotland usually known just as "The Hebrides"), British Hong Kong (now a Special Administrative Region of China, never had the prefix "British"), British West Indies (has never existed as a passport-issuing entity), Intergovernmental Institution for the use of Micro-algae Spirulina Against Malnutrition (IIMSAM) issued dubious UN like Laissez Passer, Republic of Taiwan passports. Russia’s known and reckless practice of using old paper stock to issue current passports does not resurrect the Soviet Union. They are neither fantasy nor camouflage documents so I have removed the reference. The Russian Federation can issue them as easily as Latvia.

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