With several individuals reaching 4 m (13.1 ft) tall at the shoulders,[5] it is smaller than the largest proboscideans ever to have lived (Palaeoloxodon namadicus reached 22 tonnes and shoulder heights of 5.2 metres (17.1 ft)), but was larger than other mammoths. [10], In 1959 Zhou, M. Z described what he called a new species of mammoth, M. sungari,[11] that gained recent notoriety as the largest proboscidean due to a 5.3 metres (17.4 ft) tall and 9.1 metres (29.9 ft) long composite skeletal mount based on two individuals found in 1980. A rare skull found in Auvergne, France, in 2008 will be examined by Dick Mol and Frédéric Lacombat in the Musée Crozatier in Le Puy-en-Velay. [3] It is unclear whether both forms are indeed identical and authors tend to use the name M. trogontherii for European material and M. armeniacus for Asian remains. Can somebody move the Cardabiodon vs Kronosaurus thread to hypothetical AVA matches? Please Login or Register. A first taxonomical overhaul was done by Maglio (1973) who decided that both names were synonyms, armeniacus being the older, hence the preferred name. A lot of documentaries claim that pterosaurs and bats have more fragile wings compared to birds, has this actually been noted in scientific literature or is this just some inaccurate pop zoology? a 40ft tall rex is as large as a freaking sauropod, and would tower above the mammoth. If you from now on started reposting them, the thread could become full of needless clutter. Zhou, M.Z., 1959. 6-15. Triceratops could fatally wound a T-Rex with its horns and strength. B. Tusks are not bone, but are constructed of a set of harder material mixture of enamel, cementum and dentim, something stronger than any horn sheath currently found in the mammals of the world. When you have been told on discord 13.6 meters is most probably an over estimate ? Triceratops vs Mapusaurus, max vs max (UCMP 128561 vs MCF-PVPH-108.145), Average hippo (Wikimedia Commons) vs Allosaurus fragilis (UUVP 6000, by Hartman). Its almost like you don't like stating that Tyrannosaurus masses more than 8 tons. Given the mammoth's thick hide, I cannot see T-Rex winning this with a single, powerful blow. Populations of steppe mammoth may have persisted in northern China and Mongolia as recently as 33,000 years ago. You dare try to challenge me? Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. And if it started out like a Triceratops with the Mammoth, the mammal is going to follow it. [6] Another individual represented by a single humerus 1.46 m (4.8 ft) long[7] found in Mosbach Sande, Germany, is estimated to have an in-the-flesh shoulder height of 4.5 m (14.8 ft), weighed between 9–10 metric tons (9.9–11.0 short tons) and might be the largest mammoth found yet. Lions often attack bulky prey like water buffalo from behind and deal multiple wounds to bleed out the animal. It evolved in Siberia during the Early Pleistocene from Mammuthus meridionalis. It weighed more than 12 tons oftentimes, to the Rex's approximately 5-7 tons. The T-Rex will have to flank the mammoth to get some damage in. And basing off of stampeding African Elephants, that Rex is going to be hurting when on the ground when the mammoth charges. .... Forgot to put the disclaimer I did in the mastodon vs Mapusaurus size comp. Mar 30, 2019 - Here are the largest prehistoric mammals: some of them reached enormous sizes, usually they were larger than today's counterparts. This fight is literally a curb stomp in the mammoth's favor. They continously grow. trogontherii.[4]. There's a reason why there are studies to see how fast a Tyrannosaurus would run in real life, because a stumble and fall could be fatal. Yeah, the tusks are more useful as tools than stabbing weapons. Triceratops was actually generally bigger than T-Rex. I mean when you post an oversized Mapu you state its exact weight of 8.6 tons it's never somewhat above 8 tonnes....why is that ? CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (, "Fossil Proboscideans from The Netherlands, the North Sea and the Oosterschelde Estuary", "Shoulder height, body mass and shape of proboscideans", "Excavation, reconstruction and conservation of steppe elephant from the clay pit of the building material factory "Toza Markovic" at Kikinda (Serbia)", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steppe_mammoth&oldid=968519986, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 19 July 2020, at 22:01. Yeah.... T-Rex is gonna be a lot faster than the mammoth anyway you cut it, and tusks are only useful for as long as the T.Rex hasn't broken them off to use as dental-chewies, which probably wouldn't take long if the Mammoth attempts to sweep it over like you're describing. Triceratops could fatally wound a T-Rex with its horns and strength. It would certainly be interesting. This website is dedicated to Toho and their films and characters, including Godzilla. I can't you just edit it into the post where the attachment was from? Personally, I think styracosaurus/Centrosaurus looked the coolest and were almost certainly effective weapons but I wonder if they preformed significantly worse than a triceratop's. The nature of T-Rex's hunting strategy is still in the blue: some people think that T-Rex hunted in groups and even consider it as a scavenger. There's no Mapusaurus in that size comparison, and I did say at or somewhat above 8 tonnes, didn't I? Shares. Yeah, I'm doing a little product placement! I'm not using a horrible strawman example. Meaning this T-Rex size wise is the same size as a pre-teen T-Rex, and it has to fight a full grown mammoth in musth. For the discussion of all fantasy matches, Toho or otherwise. Kronosaurus went extinct by about 100 Mya and Cardabiodon didn’t appear in the fossil record until 95 Mya. A. The chances of Rex being gored here are pretty low-- they were likely more quick on their feet than many would like to think, and a mammoth is not nearly as dynamic or dangerous as a Triceratops, which T-Rex tangled with now and again. The mammoth tusks are of the smaller and more famous Woolly Mammoth. This website is for noncommercial use only and is not affiliated with, or authorized or endorsed by Toho Co. Ltd. Godzilla, Gojira, the character designs and King of the Monsters are trademarks of Toho Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. There's a study on how resistant bat wings are to damage, but I don't think it contains a comparison to birds. I feel like that affects flight differently from removing membrane tissue. 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[9], Another quite complete steppe mammoth was excavated in the cliffs of West Runton in Norfolk, UK; it preserves its jaws and teeth but is missing the upper part of its skull. Kaiju and Kaijin, a monster story unlike any other. In: Pleistocene mammalian fossils from the northeastern provinces: 22-34, pls. [12], M. trogontherii is derived from Mammuthus meridionalis, the oldest records of the species are known from China, at around 1.8-2 ma in age from the Nihewan Formation near Majuangou, Hebei. I think Greg Paul said so once. Wouldn't snapping the tusk off cause the Mammoth a tremendous amount of pain? I can imagine a T-Rex hunting like a lion. In the videos below, you can see how elephants do tend to drive off perceived threats, or kill them in certain situations under normal seasonal times. M. primigenius replaced M. trogontherii in Europe around 200 kya. If the Rex can avoid being skewered by the tusks or being knocked over, the Rex will end it with a bite or two. [8] Another estimate gives a shoulder height of 3.89–4.5 m (12.8–14.8 ft) and a weight of 10.4–14.3 metric tons (11.5–15.8 short tons) for the species. (2010), who restudied the fossils referred to M sungari, considered this species to be a junior synonym of M. trogontherii. To post, you must join the FM Usergroup. And by what research I was able to do, that was one, fairly abnormally large Triceratops specimen. I'll add it in now. I still think that the mammoth has the better advantage over here, based on a pure stability issue with the Rex. A bunch of feathers will seem like they'd have more give, at least if the direction of the damage is in the direction of feather growth. How come when it comes to Carnosaurus or sauropods or well any other animal you can give their exact weight no problem but when it comes to Sue you can never say 8.4 tons if you use Hartmans old Sue or 8.8 tons if you use Franoys ? Falconer used material from Asian sources while Pohlig worked with fossil remains from Europe and both names appear in scientific publications, adding to the confusion. The authors state that some of the fossils are referrable to M. trogontherii, while the others can be referred to M. primigenius, according to morphological characters and measurements. By Elizabeth Palermo - Staff Writer 27 February 2013. Lister and Sher took a detailed look at mammoth fossils globally and suggest that the North American Columbian mammoth, thought to have arisen from a European species, probably evolved from a more advanced Asian species.
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